Wednesday, December 01, 2004

speak with the hand, because the palm is deaf

List of Grievances

So after so more thought, I’ve got a few more things to say about modernity/modernism/postmodernism. If anyone cares.

First, a few qualifiers. Instead of differentiating between modernity and modernism, as I did in my last post, I’d like instead to define strands of the modern outlook. We’ll call modernity Enlightenment project modernism (EM), and artistic, avant-garde modernism (AGM). It might sound stupid, but it’s all I’ve got at the moment.

Defining a thing by its faults

What I’ve found most interesting lately, is that when critiquing EM, the critiquer is coming from a background that rejects most of or all of EM. Because of this, the critiquer defines modernism is a way that is easiest for them to attack. As it stands, maybe my confusion about EM/AGM is due to the fact that different paradigms or thought-strands have different definitions of the modern condition or the modern outlook.

Perhaps then a better way to define modernism is to delineate who is defining said modernism. We could then define modernism in many different ways: Nietzschian modernism, Kierkegaardian modernism, avant-garde modernism, literary modernism, existential modernism, Foucalt's modernism, Derrida's modernism, or possibly even postmodern modernism. There is no single definition of modernism any more, which makes the study of it confusing.

Modernism today cannot simply be seen as EM because it has had 200 years to grow and evolve as a system of thought. It has become something else entirely, almost as diverse as the strands of thought that make up postmodernism. What is interesting to note is that there is not much of a modernist critique of modernism, that is to say a modern definition of modernism. Maybe a better way to say that would be neo-modernism, a rational discussion of modernisms fault, but within the context of a modern worldview that seeks to correct its faults as it defends itself against the assault of postmodernism.

And maybe we’ll see this sometimes in the future. And maybe (just maybe) what comes out of it could be a synthesis of modernism and postmodernism. A system of thought more concrete than PM but less rigid than EM (if such a system could exist). What effect that could have on theology might very well unburden the debate between the Josh McDowells and Brian McLarens of the world (or, worst case scenario, both could reject it).

The next big thing

As I see it, there are two ways this could go.

1) As I’ve mentioned before, a new system of thought that borrows the best ideas from EM and PM, and rejects other ideas that really don’t make the grade. It’s a bit Hegelian maybe, but envision modernism as the thesis, postmodernism as the antithesis, and whatever comes out of it as the synthesis. What the heck does this resolution look like? We can’t talk about it in a concrete sense because it doesn’t exist (yet).

2) This would be an extension of and a transcendence of PM, a new system of thought that rejects both EM and PM. This is even harder to talk about. But that doesn’t mean we can’t try to talk about it. Remember, there was no discussion of what might come after EM because the Enlightenment philosophers were constructing an ultimate view of reality and the world that could not be overtaken. Reason was king, science led to progress, and progress (eventually) led to utopia. But as we change from EM to PM we don’t have the same qualifications about PM (even PM don’t, because they don’t make universal truth claims like EM did). So as PM takes shape, we can start to critique it. But instead of critiquing it for the purpose of defending modernism, we critique in hopes of discovering what comes next: post-postmodernism, for lack of a better terminology. We can arrives at PPM (which, hopefully will have a much cooler name) before PM even gets off the ground and into the vocabulary of the typical westerner.

Maybe 1 and 2 are the same thing. It's getting hard to tell (and harder to care).

You dummy! You cad!

But that’s all theory, and might just turn out to be bunk. Am I talking mumbo-jumbo? Yes! But that doesn't mean we can't still pretend it has important meaning for all our lives and the lives of those to come! Raise your fists America, and question what the heck I'm talking about.

3 Comments:

At 12/09/2004 11:26 AM, Blogger Jake Sikora said...

Jonny:
Here's why your theories are self defeating, with neither synthesis or post-post-modernism as a clear rejection of either projects.

"Perhaps then a better way to define modernism is to delineate who is defining said modernism. We could then define modernism in many different ways: Nietzschian modernism, Kierkegaardian modernism, avant-garde modernism, literary modernism, existential modernism, Foucalt's modernism, Derrida's modernism, or possibly even postmodern modernism. There is no single definition of modernism any more, which makes the study of it confusing."

In addition, the same, and more, qualifications to post-modernism could be listed. In this sense, there is no way of synthesizing "modernism" and "post-modernism" nor is there a forseeable advance beyond these broad, non-existing categories.

Ultimately, your search for a new, future, thought system that benifits and improves upon what has come before is a modernist suggestion. In doing so, you are probably trying to realize one of your two "next big things". I respect this, but am painfully skeptical. As I sit in my courses here, read what's written on blogs, and watch network television I am overwhelmed by the fact that there may not be another broad general thought system, if there ever was one. Then I'm reminded that it doesn't matter because we have adapted a particular thought system, mainly Christianity, that has influenced and been influenced by broader thought system but in and of itself offers another way...

Thanks for visiting Jonny, hopefully next time I want be going to school and will be able to stay up past 9.45.

 
At 12/11/2004 2:08 AM, Blogger jonny said...

Awww, who am I kidding? Like I give a crap anymore...

 
At 12/12/2004 6:59 PM, Blogger Dusty said...

Jonny, I will be honest, I really love reading your posts! However, when you get on these kicks about Modernity versus Post-modernity or whatever they are about, I just don't get them. I mean I can tell that it means something for you, but I don't quite get why. It strikes me as a huge debate that boils down to semantics. I mean I have read some of the Sociology stuff on it, the conflict theory stuff, but it really just says that that all "progress" is really killing us and it is really negative and stuff. I am not sure why I posted, but I think your site is pretty cool and I sent my pastor to read your links about Jesus as a Republican and Democrat: that ruled.

Hey We had some awesome Meetings on campus this week about Sande...I mean Academic Freedom, but I can talk about it because EVERYTHING is entirely confidential...big brother is watching...

 

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